Comments on: Take a little from http://mtl3p.ilesansfil.org/blog/archives/2004/12/19/take_a_little_from.html society, technology and me Thu, 07 Aug 2008 20:46:08 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: Ulises http://mtl3p.ilesansfil.org/blog/archives/2004/12/19/take_a_little_from.html#comment-365 Ulises Mon, 20 Dec 2004 09:50:31 +0000 http://mtl3p.ilesansfil.org/blog/archives/2004/12/19/take_a_little_from.html#comment-365 Mike- A couple of things you've helped me realize: 1) Instead of using a tag like 'myComments' or 'comment' I just created a new tag which is the same as my username (<a href="http://del.icio.us/umejias/umejias)." rel="nofollow">http://del.icio.us/umejias/umejias).</a> Now, when I want to comment on something and I want to direct my comments to one or more individuals, I use my tag as well as tags that correspond to the usernames of all the individuals I want to address (you can see in the above example that I sent a comment to my friend Sarah). If they wish to reply to me, they use their own username tag, as well as mine. Now we can all subscribe to the RSS feed of our respective usernames, and keep track not only of the comments we are making, but of replies directed to us. This is also a good way, btw, to 'send' a link to someone: just bookmark it for yourself using your own set of tags, but also add the username of the person(s) you want to 'send' the link to (I just did this for you and created your username tag in the process (cf. <a href="http://del.icio.us/tag/mtl3p)." rel="nofollow">http://del.icio.us/tag/mtl3p).</a> Obviously, this whole process won't work if we just use 'comment' as a tag because tons of people use that tag, whereas username tags are unique. 2) I've noticed that del.icio.us won't allow you to search by URL (useful because people give different titles and categories to the same URL). This would help to see who in the larger del.icio.usphere is talking about a particular link, and join the conversation. At the moment, I guess you can click on the "and 24 more people" link, but it would be nice to just enter a URL in the search field instead of having to find an instance of the link by other means - maybe you can fire up a request to Josh ;-) Mike-

A couple of things you’ve helped me realize:

1) Instead of using a tag like ‘myComments’ or ‘comment’ I just created a new tag which is the same as my username (http://del.icio.us/umejias/umejias). Now, when I want to comment on something and I want to direct my comments to one or more individuals, I use my tag as well as tags that correspond to the usernames of all the individuals I want to address (you can see in the above example that I sent a comment to my friend Sarah). If they wish to reply to me, they use their own username tag, as well as mine. Now we can all subscribe to the RSS feed of our respective usernames, and keep track not only of the comments we are making, but of replies directed to us. This is also a good way, btw, to ’send’ a link to someone: just bookmark it for yourself using your own set of tags, but also add the username of the person(s) you want to ’send’ the link to (I just did this for you and created your username tag in the process (cf. http://del.icio.us/tag/mtl3p). Obviously, this whole process won’t work if we just use ‘comment’ as a tag because tons of people use that tag, whereas username tags are unique.

2) I’ve noticed that del.icio.us won’t allow you to search by URL (useful because people give different titles and categories to the same URL). This would help to see who in the larger del.icio.usphere is talking about a particular link, and join the conversation. At the moment, I guess you can click on the “and 24 more people” link, but it would be nice to just enter a URL in the search field instead of having to find an instance of the link by other means - maybe you can fire up a request to Josh ;-)

]]> By: Robin http://mtl3p.ilesansfil.org/blog/archives/2004/12/19/take_a_little_from.html#comment-366 Robin Mon, 20 Dec 2004 13:15:13 +0000 http://mtl3p.ilesansfil.org/blog/archives/2004/12/19/take_a_little_from.html#comment-366 About 2) You can search for a url like this: <a href="http://del.icio.us/url/532193e13a78b45264307501bb97067b" rel="nofollow">http://del.icio.us/url/532193e13a78b45264307501bb97067b</a> The trick is to replace the "5321..." with the md5 sum of the url you're searching for. On my system, I do echo -n <a href="http://mtl3p.ilesansfil.org/blog/" rel="nofollow">http://mtl3p.ilesansfil.org/blog/</a> | md5sum which returns: 60cdf1ba63ca37472ababff927087347 And so I can now go about: <a href="http://del.icio.us/url/60cdf1ba63ca37472ababff927087347" rel="nofollow">http://del.icio.us/url/60cdf1ba63ca37472ababff927087347</a> About 2)
You can search for a url like this:
http://del.icio.us/url/532193e13a78b45264307501bb97067b
The trick is to replace the “5321…” with the md5 sum of the url you’re searching for. On my system, I do
echo -n http://mtl3p.ilesansfil.org/blog/ | md5sum
which returns: 60cdf1ba63ca37472ababff927087347
And so I can now go about:
http://del.icio.us/url/60cdf1ba63ca37472ababff927087347

]]> By: IM2 | OQP http://mtl3p.ilesansfil.org/blog/archives/2004/12/19/take_a_little_from.html#comment-374 IM2 | OQP Mon, 20 Dec 2004 17:58:28 +0000 http://mtl3p.ilesansfil.org/blog/archives/2004/12/19/take_a_little_from.html#comment-374 <strong>Durl: URL search for delicious</strong> Ulysse commented on one of Michael's idea to use del.icio.us to track his discussions spread about the web on forums, blogs, etc. Ulysse pointed out that searching for urls on delicious was impossible. Well, I (didn't) have some free time, so I coded... Durl: URL search for delicious

Ulysse commented on one of Michael’s idea to use del.icio.us to track his discussions spread about the web on forums, blogs, etc. Ulysse pointed out that searching for urls on delicious was impossible. Well, I (didn’t) have some free time, so I coded…

]]> By: Robin http://mtl3p.ilesansfil.org/blog/archives/2004/12/19/take_a_little_from.html#comment-367 Robin Mon, 20 Dec 2004 18:48:52 +0000 http://mtl3p.ilesansfil.org/blog/archives/2004/12/19/take_a_little_from.html#comment-367 So I went a step further: Durl: URL search for delicious <a href="http://rym.waglo.com/wordpress/index.php?p=332" rel="nofollow">http://rym.waglo.com/wordpress/index.php?p=332</a> So I went a step further:

Durl: URL search for delicious
http://rym.waglo.com/wordpress/index.php?p=332

]]> By: mtl3p http://mtl3p.ilesansfil.org/blog/archives/2004/12/19/take_a_little_from.html#comment-368 mtl3p Mon, 20 Dec 2004 18:58:11 +0000 http://mtl3p.ilesansfil.org/blog/archives/2004/12/19/take_a_little_from.html#comment-368 Robin. I think you are very impressive. No shit. Robin. I think you are very impressive. No shit.

]]> By: Robin http://mtl3p.ilesansfil.org/blog/archives/2004/12/19/take_a_little_from.html#comment-369 Robin Mon, 20 Dec 2004 23:09:23 +0000 http://mtl3p.ilesansfil.org/blog/archives/2004/12/19/take_a_little_from.html#comment-369 Of course, I had to break it right away... I missed a few cases in my parsing. Durl will be back tomorrow, and I'll give it a more permanent address. Of course, I had to break it right away… I missed a few cases in my parsing. Durl will be back tomorrow, and I’ll give it a more permanent address.

]]> By: Robin http://mtl3p.ilesansfil.org/blog/archives/2004/12/19/take_a_little_from.html#comment-370 Robin Tue, 21 Dec 2004 14:38:07 +0000 http://mtl3p.ilesansfil.org/blog/archives/2004/12/19/take_a_little_from.html#comment-370 Ulises, I just heard from Joshua Schachter (see <a href="http://lists.burri.to/pipermail/delicious-discuss/2004-December/001522.html" rel="nofollow">http://lists.burri.to/pipermail/delicious-discuss/2004-December/001522.html</a> ) and I learned something. You don't need to mess with md5 sums yourself, as you can use this query: <a href="http://del.icio.us/url?url=http://..." rel="nofollow">http://del.icio.us/url?url=http://...</a> and you'll get the page you want. Also, I moved Durl here: <a href="http://tools.waglo.com/durl" rel="nofollow">http://tools.waglo.com/durl</a> and one thing it does that del.icio.us doesn't have yet is an RSS feed given a URL. With Durl, you can do something like this: <a href="http://tools.waglo.com/durl/rss/http://mtl3p.ilesansfil.org/blog/archives/2004/12/19/take_a_little_from.html" rel="nofollow">http://tools.waglo.com/durl/rss/http://mtl3p.ilesansfil.org/blog/archives/2004/12/19/take_a_little_from.html</a> and voil‡, a nice RSS feed. P.S.: Mike, sorry to keep coming back with this - I'm done playing with it now so I'll be quiet ;) Ulises, I just heard from Joshua Schachter (see http://lists.burri.to/pipermail/delicious-discuss/2004-December/001522.html ) and I learned something. You don’t need to mess with md5 sums yourself, as you can use this query:
http://del.icio.us/url?url=http://…
and you’ll get the page you want.
Also, I moved Durl here:
http://tools.waglo.com/durl
and one thing it does that del.icio.us doesn’t have yet is an RSS feed given a URL. With Durl, you can do something like this:
http://tools.waglo.com/durl/rss/http://mtl3p.ilesansfil.org/blog/archives/2004/12/19/take_a_little_from.html
and voil‡, a nice RSS feed.
P.S.: Mike, sorry to keep coming back with this - I’m done playing with it now so I’ll be quiet ;)

]]> By: mtl3p http://mtl3p.ilesansfil.org/blog/archives/2004/12/19/take_a_little_from.html#comment-371 mtl3p Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:59:16 +0000 http://mtl3p.ilesansfil.org/blog/archives/2004/12/19/take_a_little_from.html#comment-371 Don't be sorry. I think it's totally interesting to hear you work through this problem. The non-techie side of me is totally jealous. Don’t be sorry. I think it’s totally interesting to hear you work through this problem. The non-techie side of me is totally jealous.

]]> By: LuistxoBlog http://mtl3p.ilesansfil.org/blog/archives/2004/12/19/take_a_little_from.html#comment-375 LuistxoBlog Wed, 22 Dec 2004 05:56:29 +0000 http://mtl3p.ilesansfil.org/blog/archives/2004/12/19/take_a_little_from.html#comment-375 <strong>D</strong> Robin, a bilingual blogger, has invented DURL. You enter a url to retrieve information about people who delicious'ed it. Excellent idea! One addition that I think could expand the capabilities of DURL or of the URL features of del.icio.us would be thi... D

Robin, a bilingual blogger, has invented DURL. You enter a url to retrieve information about people who delicious’ed it.
Excellent idea! One addition that I think could expand the capabilities of DURL or of the URL features of del.icio.us would be thi…

]]> By: eLearning Timsoft http://mtl3p.ilesansfil.org/blog/archives/2004/12/19/take_a_little_from.html#comment-376 eLearning Timsoft Thu, 30 Dec 2004 11:34:30 +0000 http://mtl3p.ilesansfil.org/blog/archives/2004/12/19/take_a_little_from.html#comment-376 <strong>delicious - groups/subgroups, tree structure</strong> Wonderful ideas presented in the following blogs:... Which groups to share annotated collections of resources: in ( Continuous ) Education, firms, research. Want subgroups and a tree structure for your delicious collection: use multiple tags. delicious - groups/subgroups, tree structure

Wonderful ideas presented in the following blogs:…
Which groups to share annotated collections of resources: in ( Continuous ) Education, firms, research.
Want subgroups and a tree structure for your delicious collection: use multiple tags.

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