Take a little from
column A (groups sharing bookmarks by using the same tags),
column B (using multiple tags in delicious),
and column C (a person using delicious to share the comments he makes on other sites (Step 3 in last nights entry))
and what do you get?
You get a funky tool for groups to share (and publish) their comments (as in the comments that each of the individual members make on other blogs). And thereby share the conversations they are having elsewhere on the web with the other members of their group. Ulises and Luistxo - are you listening? Many2Many - do you guys feel like trying a cool experiment? I’m certain that you, like the rest of us, often don’t post stuff because you’re too busy. I for one would find value in seeing what you guys talk about when you are elsewhere on the web?
Or maybe we’ve reached a limit to what we want to share? Perhaps we wouldn’t feel comfortable with *all* of our comments appearing in the same place. Well, we could add another tag (to the tag “comment”) called “share” and agree only to publish those with both.
What do you all think?
December 20th, 2004 at 9:50 am
Mike-
A couple of things you’ve helped me realize:
1) Instead of using a tag like ‘myComments’ or ‘comment’ I just created a new tag which is the same as my username (http://del.icio.us/umejias/umejias). Now, when I want to comment on something and I want to direct my comments to one or more individuals, I use my tag as well as tags that correspond to the usernames of all the individuals I want to address (you can see in the above example that I sent a comment to my friend Sarah). If they wish to reply to me, they use their own username tag, as well as mine. Now we can all subscribe to the RSS feed of our respective usernames, and keep track not only of the comments we are making, but of replies directed to us. This is also a good way, btw, to ’send’ a link to someone: just bookmark it for yourself using your own set of tags, but also add the username of the person(s) you want to ’send’ the link to (I just did this for you and created your username tag in the process (cf. http://del.icio.us/tag/mtl3p). Obviously, this whole process won’t work if we just use ‘comment’ as a tag because tons of people use that tag, whereas username tags are unique.
2) I’ve noticed that del.icio.us won’t allow you to search by URL (useful because people give different titles and categories to the same URL). This would help to see who in the larger del.icio.usphere is talking about a particular link, and join the conversation. At the moment, I guess you can click on the “and 24 more people” link, but it would be nice to just enter a URL in the search field instead of having to find an instance of the link by other means - maybe you can fire up a request to Josh ;-)
December 20th, 2004 at 1:15 pm
About 2)
You can search for a url like this:
http://del.icio.us/url/532193e13a78b45264307501bb97067b
The trick is to replace the “5321…” with the md5 sum of the url you’re searching for. On my system, I do
echo -n http://mtl3p.ilesansfil.org/blog/ | md5sum
which returns: 60cdf1ba63ca37472ababff927087347
And so I can now go about:
http://del.icio.us/url/60cdf1ba63ca37472ababff927087347
December 20th, 2004 at 5:58 pm
Durl: URL search for delicious
Ulysse commented on one of Michael’s idea to use del.icio.us to track his discussions spread about the web on forums, blogs, etc. Ulysse pointed out that searching for urls on delicious was impossible. Well, I (didn’t) have some free time, so I coded…
December 20th, 2004 at 6:48 pm
So I went a step further:
Durl: URL search for delicious
http://rym.waglo.com/wordpress/index.php?p=332
December 20th, 2004 at 6:58 pm
Robin. I think you are very impressive. No shit.
December 20th, 2004 at 11:09 pm
Of course, I had to break it right away… I missed a few cases in my parsing. Durl will be back tomorrow, and I’ll give it a more permanent address.
December 21st, 2004 at 2:38 pm
Ulises, I just heard from Joshua Schachter (see http://lists.burri.to/pipermail/delicious-discuss/2004-December/001522.html ) and I learned something. You don’t need to mess with md5 sums yourself, as you can use this query:
http://del.icio.us/url?url=http://…
and you’ll get the page you want.
Also, I moved Durl here:
http://tools.waglo.com/durl
and one thing it does that del.icio.us doesn’t have yet is an RSS feed given a URL. With Durl, you can do something like this:
http://tools.waglo.com/durl/rss/http://mtl3p.ilesansfil.org/blog/archives/2004/12/19/take_a_little_from.html
and voil‡, a nice RSS feed.
P.S.: Mike, sorry to keep coming back with this - I’m done playing with it now so I’ll be quiet ;)
December 21st, 2004 at 5:59 pm
Don’t be sorry. I think it’s totally interesting to hear you work through this problem. The non-techie side of me is totally jealous.
December 22nd, 2004 at 5:56 am
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Robin, a bilingual blogger, has invented DURL. You enter a url to retrieve information about people who delicious’ed it.
Excellent idea! One addition that I think could expand the capabilities of DURL or of the URL features of del.icio.us would be thi…
December 30th, 2004 at 11:34 am
delicious - groups/subgroups, tree structure
Wonderful ideas presented in the following blogs:…
Which groups to share annotated collections of resources: in ( Continuous ) Education, firms, research.
Want subgroups and a tree structure for your delicious collection: use multiple tags.